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	<title>Comments on: NEWS: Early evening sees Holylands disturbance escalate</title>
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		<title>By: unknownmale</title>
		<link>http://thegown.org.uk/2010/03/17/news-early-evening-sees-holylands-disturbance-escalate/comment-page-1/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>unknownmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;nsults are issued freely issued to the holyland student residents but becauese this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them.&quot;

what are these nsults? dictionary perhaps?

i lived in Elms for one year, Stranmillis for one year and the Holylands for two years so at this point I require you to retract your comment &quot;this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them&quot;.

By the way, pity you lose all credibility by using the term “prat”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nsults are issued freely issued to the holyland student residents but becauese this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them.&#8221;</p>
<p>what are these nsults? dictionary perhaps?</p>
<p>i lived in Elms for one year, Stranmillis for one year and the Holylands for two years so at this point I require you to retract your comment &#8220;this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them&#8221;.</p>
<p>By the way, pity you lose all credibility by using the term “prat”.</p>
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		<title>By: offended.</title>
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		<dc:creator>offended.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unknownmale: good argument.pity you lose all credibility by using the term &quot;cum bucket&quot;.surprised and disgusted that you would publish this gown.I thought comments were not to be published if vulgar.- suppose that it is testament to the quality of students in general.-nsults are issued freely issued to the holyland student residents but becauese this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unknownmale: good argument.pity you lose all credibility by using the term &#8220;cum bucket&#8221;.surprised and disgusted that you would publish this gown.I thought comments were not to be published if vulgar.- suppose that it is testament to the quality of students in general.-nsults are issued freely issued to the holyland student residents but becauese this prat lives on the lisburn road he thinks he is better than them.</p>
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		<title>By: pmcc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do the authorities not realise that the real problem in the holylands area is overcrowding? If you take a house designed for a family of 6 and cram approximately 20 students aged 18-23 into it, and you do that to every house on the street what do you expect will happen? It&#039;s not the students fault that there is serious overcrowding in the Holylands area. 

The authorities are attempting to treat the symptoms, not the cause, with heavy handed police and CCTV cameras. The Universities are as bad, pointing the finger at the student population instead of tackling the real issue of overcrowding. 

Then every young person in the North also knows that the Holylands is &#039;the place to be&#039; on St Patricks day, so you can add a few more thousand on top of an already overcrowded small area of belfast, most of the arrests last year were people who did not even reside in the area or attend either university. They were blow-ins who only come to the area on St Patrick&#039;s day because of the reputation the Holylands has. The bad-press attracts the type of people who revel in this kind of disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the authorities not realise that the real problem in the holylands area is overcrowding? If you take a house designed for a family of 6 and cram approximately 20 students aged 18-23 into it, and you do that to every house on the street what do you expect will happen? It&#8217;s not the students fault that there is serious overcrowding in the Holylands area. </p>
<p>The authorities are attempting to treat the symptoms, not the cause, with heavy handed police and CCTV cameras. The Universities are as bad, pointing the finger at the student population instead of tackling the real issue of overcrowding. </p>
<p>Then every young person in the North also knows that the Holylands is &#8216;the place to be&#8217; on St Patricks day, so you can add a few more thousand on top of an already overcrowded small area of belfast, most of the arrests last year were people who did not even reside in the area or attend either university. They were blow-ins who only come to the area on St Patrick&#8217;s day because of the reputation the Holylands has. The bad-press attracts the type of people who revel in this kind of disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: unknownmale</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknownmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out that I do not in any way endorse the behavior of these students, I am meerly commenting on reality as it is, something a lot of people could do with getting to grips with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out that I do not in any way endorse the behavior of these students, I am meerly commenting on reality as it is, something a lot of people could do with getting to grips with</p>
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		<title>By: unknownmale</title>
		<link>http://thegown.org.uk/2010/03/17/news-early-evening-sees-holylands-disturbance-escalate/comment-page-1/#comment-1662</link>
		<dc:creator>unknownmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what was a joke? substantiate your comments? do you know this girl? were you there at the time? perhaps you&#039;re some kind of mystic that was able to transcend dimensions and you fully understood the context in which this comment was made? or perhaps are you just assuming that it was a joke?

the gown is an independant newspaper at QUB, it is not a platform for ignorant hoodlums who think that confining residents to one street for the day is a viable solution and i would well believe that this girl was 100% serious when she made that comment, something i will clarify the next time I&#039;m talking to Catherine.

QUB is responsible for the behaviour of its students because it is unable to provide affordable on-site accomodation. Annually there are about 25,000 at QUB, Queen&#039;s Elms Village is able to accomodate a tiny percentage of these students, in fact Elms has become so expensive and middle-class that they&#039;ve had to open their doors to UUJ and UUB students because enough QUB students are unable to foot the bill. If the students union is selling alcohol at reduced prices they too are responsible. if the behaviour of these students causes any emotional or financial problems for the residents of the Holylands then QUB should be making financial payments to these residents. where does the money that is collected from fining students go?

I now live on the Lisburn Road, how ridiculous would it be if I was to complain to the IFA that there was massive amounts of noise, cheering, loud music, huge crowds walking up and down the street, drinking, people urinating in public, singing sectarian songs etc. coming from Windsor Park? Farcical - i knew all this before I moved in. Likewise if someone has voluntarily moved into the Holylands as a long-term resident in the last 15-20 years they knew exactly what they were getting themselves into and HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. However, and this is where i do have an enormous degree of sympathy, the long term residents that have been there since before the Holylands became a student dominated area are treated disgracefully, obviously primarily by the students but also by BCC, QUB &amp; UUJ, the Students Union and the PSNI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what was a joke? substantiate your comments? do you know this girl? were you there at the time? perhaps you&#8217;re some kind of mystic that was able to transcend dimensions and you fully understood the context in which this comment was made? or perhaps are you just assuming that it was a joke?</p>
<p>the gown is an independant newspaper at QUB, it is not a platform for ignorant hoodlums who think that confining residents to one street for the day is a viable solution and i would well believe that this girl was 100% serious when she made that comment, something i will clarify the next time I&#8217;m talking to Catherine.</p>
<p>QUB is responsible for the behaviour of its students because it is unable to provide affordable on-site accomodation. Annually there are about 25,000 at QUB, Queen&#8217;s Elms Village is able to accomodate a tiny percentage of these students, in fact Elms has become so expensive and middle-class that they&#8217;ve had to open their doors to UUJ and UUB students because enough QUB students are unable to foot the bill. If the students union is selling alcohol at reduced prices they too are responsible. if the behaviour of these students causes any emotional or financial problems for the residents of the Holylands then QUB should be making financial payments to these residents. where does the money that is collected from fining students go?</p>
<p>I now live on the Lisburn Road, how ridiculous would it be if I was to complain to the IFA that there was massive amounts of noise, cheering, loud music, huge crowds walking up and down the street, drinking, people urinating in public, singing sectarian songs etc. coming from Windsor Park? Farcical &#8211; i knew all this before I moved in. Likewise if someone has voluntarily moved into the Holylands as a long-term resident in the last 15-20 years they knew exactly what they were getting themselves into and HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. However, and this is where i do have an enormous degree of sympathy, the long term residents that have been there since before the Holylands became a student dominated area are treated disgracefully, obviously primarily by the students but also by BCC, QUB &amp; UUJ, the Students Union and the PSNI.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also unknownmale:
&quot;Why Catherine are you giving a voice to these people?&quot;
Em...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also unknownmale:<br />
&#8220;Why Catherine are you giving a voice to these people?&#8221;<br />
Em&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To unknownmale:
It was just a joke wind your neck in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To unknownmale:<br />
It was just a joke wind your neck in.</p>
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		<title>By: unknownmale</title>
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		<dc:creator>unknownmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m actually suprised that she was able to articulate words like &quot;confined&quot;. Why Catherine are you giving a voice to these people? Personally I believe that those residents who have the right to complain should be restricted to those that have lived their entire lives in the holylands - not the scum who have been forced out of every other area in belfast for their unscrupulous activites. But that aside it would be nice to hear a genuine solution to the holylands issue instead of the drunken ramblings of some cum bucket with too much bacardi breezer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m actually suprised that she was able to articulate words like &#8220;confined&#8221;. Why Catherine are you giving a voice to these people? Personally I believe that those residents who have the right to complain should be restricted to those that have lived their entire lives in the holylands &#8211; not the scum who have been forced out of every other area in belfast for their unscrupulous activites. But that aside it would be nice to hear a genuine solution to the holylands issue instead of the drunken ramblings of some cum bucket with too much bacardi breezer</p>
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